But someone somewhere has a special seat up front in the Throne Room, or maybe it was the collective cry of so many. I can't explain it, but those embryos "perked right up" overnight, as my doctor said. I'm still confused on the numbers and how this happened, but we have eight embryos. He said there were seven on Saturday and eight on Sunday. In addition to that, half of them were on pace or ahead. We had two 8 cell, one 9 cell, and one 12 cell on day three when they should be 8 cells. Now nothing had a perfect grade, but most had a grade of 2 meaning a little fragmentation but all the cells are equal. I'm not sure I can adequately describe the change in their outlook from day 2 to day 3... even our doctor was really impressed!
Despite the change, he still recommended that we go ahead with a day 3 transfer. And after chatting with Dr. Duffy, I'm much more okay with this. He admitted that he is probably the only doctor in the clinic who would recommend this... everyone else in the practice likes to push for day 5 blastocysts. And I was suddenly reminded why I chose him, why I like him. He is for giving each of my embryos the best chance at life, not pushing them to survive in a lab with manmade medium so that only the fittest survive. He said pushing for day 5 may only leave me with one or two blasts, or none, and there's absolutely no proof that an embryo that perishes in the lab between day 3 and day 5 wouldn't have survived and grown into a beautiful baby if transferred earlier. I know a lot of people disagree with this, but that's okay. We just want to give them all a chance. It probably means that future FETs (frozen embryo transfers) will fail at a higher rate, but our embryos fought really hard to get to day 3... we're not giving up on them just because they had a rocky start.
We ended up transferring two embryos, an 8 cell grade 2 and the 12 cell grade 2. He did still offer to transfer three and explained that this would be against ASRM's Transfer Guidelines, but that if our absolute goal is a pregnancy from this cycle, that's what he'd recommend. Essentially, day 3 embryos are just harder to judge.... the ones that would have died in between day 3 and day 5 in the lab might very well die in the uterus... there's no good way to know, which is why a day 5 transfer is typically preferred. I will say that FIRM is a little flippant with the embryo transfer guidelines... Nazis about OHSS, but not so much on how many should be transferred. They of course have a slightly higher twin rate because of that. We decided to stick with two. These are my reasons:
- My goal is not to get pregnant no matter what out of this cycle. My goal is to get pregnant. If it's not this cycle than hopefully next.
- I'm still not super comfortable with the Lupron trigger, I feel better about it, but not great. Therefore, putting all of me
eggsembryos in onebasketuterus, doesn't make me very comfortable. - We want a safe pregnancy for me and the baby (or babies). There is undeniably an increased risk for each additional baby.
- We don't want triplets. Twins is one thing, but triplets? Not really in our plans. The odds of all three implanting as day 3 embryos was crazy small, but I don't gamble. And I also would feel super weird hoping that one or two dies during the next two weeks... super weird.
The transfer went really smoothly. Dr. Duffy said I was the best transfer of the day. The one thing I've got going for me in the reproductive department is a normal uterus and an easily accessible cervix. It really felt no different than an IUI in terms of procedure (other than the painfully full bladder)... there was the HUGE difference though in the fact that they weren't injecting several million sperm but rather transferring 2 precious embryos. There are a couple of things that I really hated about the transfer though, most notably was that Sam couldn't be in the room. I had never heard of a clinic that didn't allow the spouse to be in the transfer room. It's a really special moment and I hate that Sam missed it. The second thing I hate is that they didn't give me a picture of my embryos... I thought that was standard. I did however get an ultrasound image of them at the moment of transfer.
| The embryo in in the little glowing blob. I'm not sure why it glows, but I assure you, the embryos are not radioactive. : ) |
It was so weird. I went into the transfer a sad, depressed, mopey mess... even with the news about the improved quality I was feeling bummed that our IVF journey did not turn out as we had hoped. And then they transferred those embryos inside, the tears started to flow and my whole mindset changed. I'm not giving up on these embryos. I was reminded that these are the exact embryos that I was fighting for with all of those doctors... I said I didn't want just grade A and grade 1. I wanted them all because they all have a chance at growing into a take home baby. Well, I've got them. They're not perfect, but they're ours. They are genetically ours and now, more importantly, physically ours and we so desperately want them!
And that was it. My clinic strongly discourages bed rest. In fact, they don't even allow you to rest after the transfer. They get you up immediately and send you to empty your bladder. They said that they used to require bed rest, but recent studies have shown that bed rest is not only not helpful, but can be hurtful. I'm on the fence about it, but my desire to come home won out. Sam couldn't get off of work for an extra day and I was kind of an emotional mess after the roller coaster of Saturday and Sunday... I just wanted to be home with my husband and my sweet Sterling and Everest. As it was a day 3 transfer and nothing can implant for several days, I decided to come home yesterday after the transfer. It was a long drive and the entire time I was second guessing the wisdom, particularly with every bump in the road, but I'm trying to trust that they are snuggled in my uterus and hopefully were uninterrupted in their task of cell division by the bumpy roads. I decided to take today though and stay home as I'm still exhausted and sadly still recovering from the retrieval. We won't call it bed rest as I'm fixing my own food and beverage and doing some laundry, we will just call it being lazy and recuperating from a very long three weeks!
So thank you again for all of your words of encouragement: your text messages, comments, and emails meant the world to us during one of our darkest days. And thank you for your prayers! The Lord decided to breathe life and we are so, so thankful!
Now settle in... eleven days and counting until the pregnancy test!
Oh wow!!! I am so glad to hear that they got so much better and stronger!!! How encouraging!! And I'm glad you're home and PUPO. Praying praying praying!!
ReplyDeleteI love this!! So happy for you guys and the change of events!! Continuing to pray for those two little fighters, for your strength, and for patience as you wait out the next 11 days! Truly happy for you guys!!
ReplyDeleteYay! You're PUPO! The whole bed rest vs non bed rest thing is so interesting... I've done both and honestly don't think that's what made a difference in any of my results. I will be praying so hard for you the next 11 days!! XO
ReplyDeleteYay I am so glad things turned out better than it looked to be originally, praise God!! You are in my continued prayers girl! !!
ReplyDeleteAwesome! So much to be hopeful for! Enjoy your modified R&R!
ReplyDeleteCrossing fingers that these two decide to stick around the next 9 months. :)
ReplyDeleteYay! I'm so glad your embabies caught up. Hope they keep growing. Sending lots of sticky vibes your way.
ReplyDeleteThe glow is the fluid that they are transfered with.. And I didn't get a picture of my embryos either (which I didn't like). That is a bummer that he wasn't allowed in there! You are PUPO!! I will be praying for your babies to snuggle in and get comfy for the next 9 months!
ReplyDeletewoo hoo!!!! so excited for you! sounds like things really turned a corner - both scientifically and your outlook! Sounds like you are doing a great job not gett8ing hung up on perfect embryos. I had a donor with 18 mature eggs and a husband with 550 million sperm and not a single perfect embryo! But I am growing twins so who cares about perfect!! Also dont sweat the road trip! Your doctor is right and bed rest does not help! I did it for my first two cycles for like a day. My third cycle I went straight to Panera and then a 5 hour road trip. Just try not to lift things, if that is their reccomendation! Thinking pregnant thoughts!!!
ReplyDeleteWhen do you find out how many they can freeze? Will they culture the rest till day 5?
Amazing! What a miracle!! The countdown is on!
ReplyDeleteHoping you stay relaxed for your next 11 days and that your embies settle in. Hugs!
ReplyDeleteI am so glad your embryos caught up!! Transferring two seems like a good decision at this point. I'm very hopeful for you!
ReplyDeleteToo bad they didn't let Sam into the room though. Maybe he can spend some extra time cuddling with you and the two embryos now?
That's so great that your embryos "perked right up"!!! They sound like survivors to me. I guarantee that if all pregnancies were examined at that stage, many (or even most) wouldn't be considered "perfect" embryos.
ReplyDeleteI read a study that said not doing bed rest was better too. Probably just taking it a little easy is good enough. Sending you lots of luck. Enjoy being PUPO!
Congratulations! This is great news. As with what you decided, I always stuck with two (well, up until my very last cycle when I had 2 plus a 5-cell they said wasn't good enough to freeze, so ...) and it was in part because I couldn't imagine spending a 2ww hoping any hadn't stuck. So. Also, FWIW, the cycle of mine that worked (it was not the last one, that was an attempt for a sibling), I pretty much jumped off the table after transfer, ran to the bathroom, peed, jerked my clothes on, ran to my car, and drove right back to work. My clinic was with yours on bedrest and I had an important meeting to get to! And as this was cycle 4 for me (or 6, counting FETs), well, the romance of IVF was long gone and my DH wasn't even there (at the clinic). So although I'm sorry they didn't allow Sam in with you, I hope you'll get similar good results.
ReplyDelete(My own opinion of the bedrest issue by the way is that a woman who endured IVF should do whatever helps her get through the 2ww, whether that's skydiving or lying on the sofa watching her DH vacuum the blinds, just sayin'!).
Wow! Yay!! What glorious news!! Praying for them to be sticky, sticky! :)
ReplyDeleteWow, it sounds like the little embryos really perked up overnight, that is wonderful news. I think 2 embryos is the way to go, triplets is definitely a much different animal than twins! One of the doctors who did a transfer told me not to worry about the embryos "falling out", he said they are like grains of salt in a peanut butter sandwich. Even if you don't do bed rest, definitely take it easy....eat lots of warm food and relax. I'll be praying for those little ones to implant!!! Take care....xoxox
ReplyDeleteYAYYYYYY!!! So rejoicing over here and getting teary eyed! We are still praying for your babies!!We love y'all!!
ReplyDeleteThey are glowing on your ultrasound because they are full of LIGHT! and Hope! We are praying so vigilantly for you, Sam, and now, your uterus! WaumbaLand and the 2s miss you but we are sending you so much positive energy! Proverbs 3:5 :) :) :)
ReplyDeleteThis is AWESOME news!! I am so excited for you and your hubby, I really hope this is it for you guys. Praying so, so hard for you :)
ReplyDeleteSo glad to hear things turned around! That's very exciting! I'll be praying for your babies to continue to grow!
ReplyDeleteEeek, so excited for you! What a miraculous turnaround from day 2 to day 3! Praying for those embryos to implant and grow.
ReplyDeleteJust passing through and read your post. I'm so happy everything went well for you! I went through 2 rounds of IVF - one with two grade A blasts, and the second with a grade B, 3-day embryo - and it turns out it was the 3-day emby that stuck (now six months pregnant). So keep faith in your little 3-day babies!
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