For those of you who picked a clinic, do you still feel that way? Those who responded to me all picked CCRM for their shockingly high live birth rate. But as you can see, that extra chance of success comes with a hefty price tag. The truth is that IVF alone is not all that outrageous at CCRM... really no more than clinics here in Georgia. It's the ODWU (One Day Work Up) that complicates things. They charge $4,500 for testing, regardless of whether you've had that tested before. Yikes! But it obviously works. Their odds were the highest I found, so the additional cost seems to make sense. I will say that regardless of the location, it appears that there is NEVER a sticker price... CCRM lists one set of prices on their website, but my dear friend Aubrey (who has her retrieval TOMORROW) has a different price list. We were driving ourselves crazy trying to find the discrepancies! I say this to assure you... we will pay more than we innitially agree to. There will be an extra test, ultrasound blood draw or medication that was not listed in the IVF consult... and we'll pay it because, what the hell, what's $200 more dollars in the face of a bazillion?
So yea, CCRM is expensive and efficient. Essentially for every $1000 you spend, you increase your chances by 3.2% (like how I do math? super real and mathy... my Calculus teacher would die.) But let's compare that to say, my clinic, RBA. $14,700 for a fresh IVF with ICSI. 2011 SART data puts them at a 34.8% chance of bringing home a baby. With that price and those odds, for every $1000 you spend, you increase your chances by just over 2%. RBA is one of the most expensive clinics I found, and yet, in my opinion their numbers simply don't justify the expense. But when I look deeper, I'm even more confused. The live birth rate took a nasty plunge in 2011. When I chose RBA, these latest numbers weren't available, but now I've got to ask what went wrong? Here's the live birth rate over the last several years:
So yea, CCRM is expensive and efficient. Essentially for every $1000 you spend, you increase your chances by 3.2% (like how I do math? super real and mathy... my Calculus teacher would die.) But let's compare that to say, my clinic, RBA. $14,700 for a fresh IVF with ICSI. 2011 SART data puts them at a 34.8% chance of bringing home a baby. With that price and those odds, for every $1000 you spend, you increase your chances by just over 2%. RBA is one of the most expensive clinics I found, and yet, in my opinion their numbers simply don't justify the expense. But when I look deeper, I'm even more confused. The live birth rate took a nasty plunge in 2011. When I chose RBA, these latest numbers weren't available, but now I've got to ask what went wrong? Here's the live birth rate over the last several years:
2011- 34.8, 2010- 40.5, 2009- 41.4, 2008-40.7, 2007- 44.3
In five years, the chances of any one cycle of IVF yielding a live birth dropped by almost 10%. The only rationale I can supply is that they have become much more cautious and serious about the number of embryos they put back. I get the feeling I'd have a pretty big fight on my hands if I wanted to do two embryos. Essentially, I have no point here. So yea, thanks for reading all my insights and special math skills. I'm just suggesting that this kind of sucks. No, it super sucks. Where you live (or where you are able and willing to travel to) totally dicates how much you will pay and what your chances are. We're not talking about a percentage point or two or a couple hundred bucks, we're talking double the odds and literally twice or three times the cost. There are HUGE differences from state to state and clinic to clinic in regards to IVF. No easy decisions here.

If you are considering out of state treatment, I would encourage you to look at the clinic we went to Conceptions Reproductive Associates. Their SART scores place them at #3 in the nation. Www.conceptionsrepro.com. I love them!
ReplyDeleteOh my goodness - I can't even tell you how many times I've said "what's another $200 (or more!) since starting my cycle here!".
ReplyDeleteLooking at success rates is obviously a big factor in choosing a clinic... But, even if you choose a clinic with a 20% success rate... Someone has to be in that 20%, right? And why couldn't you be one of those people? :) I know you'll ending up choosing the best clinic that's right for you!
xoxo
My ODWU at CCRM was covered by insurance, thank goodness! It was stressing me before I went thinking that I had to add that cost to the IVF. I was super lucky that it worked out the way it did. Those costs, then with travel, can really add up. It's so frustrating.
ReplyDeleteI will say that Advanced Fertility is on my shit list at the moment. I made a phone consult appointment and then cancelled it more than a week in advance. Well, they make you pay when you make the appointment and even though they said they'd refund...they are now saying they won't. So $250, for no service?! Way to take advantage of an infertile. NOT A FAN!!
The RBA numbers surprise me! I can see how all these stats and figures (and your calculations) can all start to mess with your head. I will say a prayer for clarity and peace as you make this important decision!
ReplyDeleteNo easy decisions at all, my friend. :( I'll be praying for your and your husband's guidance.
ReplyDeletePrayers for you Amanda :)
ReplyDeleteI remember having SUCH headaches thinking about this stuff the first time around with IVF. We called so many clinics and crunched the numbers again and again. At that stage in the game, we didn't realize how common it was for people to go out of state for treatments. I can't imagine how much more stressed we would have been if we would have considered that option! All of that is to say that my heart goes out to you as you face these tough decisions.
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