While in Jacksonville finalizing our adoption of Garrison, we stopped in at FIRM, the clinic where we did IVF. We have four (maybe three) embryos frozen there. We have decided that before we pursue any other family building opportunities, we will complete our frozen embryo transfers. In a lot of ways, these embryos feel like a weight. And that's totally not fair; I know. They are our children, long awaited for, fought for, prayed for, but it appears that it is very unlikely that we will ever meet them. The doctor confirmed that it is unlikely we will see a bring home baby out of this IVF cycle. And yet, we feel that we must give them a chance.
When we completed our IVF cycle in January 2014, we paid to keep our embryos frozen for two years. At the time, it seemed like we would not need the full two years. We knew our embryos were lower grades and we figured that even if we got lucky, we'd try for a sibling within two years. But then the first transfer failed. And then the second. And then an entire year passed by. January 2016 will be here quickly. I know that as the months with Garrison just fly by. I feel as if I'm constantly sticking a round sticker on his onesie and exclaiming "another month went by so fast!" We have a few months to decide what to do, but the decision is (as always) complicated.
We met with a different doctor for our consult as my doctor was out of the office and we were only in town the one day. This doctor was more of a straight shooter. He agreed that in light of our past transfers and the quality of our frozen embryos, the odds of success with any of our remaining embryos is low. He didn't really bat an eye at our request to transfer all four...that's always a really bad sign. He agreed that the Endometrial Function Test would be a good next step just to rule out any implantation issues. If something came up, he said we'd correct it and then his recommendation would be to transfer two. He agreed that our issue is very likely embryo quality (with a root cause in egg quality) but that if he had proof that there was a problem with my lining, he would be unable to say with certainty that our previous cycles failed because of embryo quality and transferring four would be riskier. However, his bet is that all is normal with my uterus and lining. That's my bet too, but I've never been one to turn down answers.
And I guess this is where my ideas on family building and next steps are changing. I'm just not sure how much more money I'm willing to throw at my body. There are other ways to build a family, ways that I'm really open to and even excited about. I do believe that given all the money in the world there is likely a doctor out there with enough expertise to help me get pregnant with my own eggs and Sam's sperm. But we don't have all the money in the world, and if I'm being honest, there are other things I'd rather do with money (like pay off student loan debt) than throw darts at $30,000 a toss at a moving dart board with a shrinking bullseye.
The doctor did mention and agree that this test for my lining (at $1,500) would be valuable information for later transfers, whether that's our embryos or donor embryos. And while IVF may be less and less glamorous to me, embryo adoption still holds a lot of appeal. So we have to decide if we want to do this test. It needs to be completed about 2 cycles before our transfer. We also have to decide if we want to attempt to transfer these embryos before the middle of January (when our payment runs out and we'd need to pay $500). To do the transfer without the test would cost approximately $2,500 including travel and medication. Adding in the test would bump that to about $4,000. That's a TON of money to come up with in 6 months, especially while paying for daycare at the cost of $10,000 a year. Which ultimately brings up the biggest question: are we ready (and can we afford) another kid? Yes, the cycle is VERY unlikely to succeed, but I can't help feeling negligent if we don't calculate our ability to provide for another child if the cycle were to succeed.
I have a feeling the answer is no. In fact, I know the answer is no. Daycare alone is almost $1,000 a month, and we don't have $1,000 margin in our budget each month. Will we ever? Absolutely. But in January, no probably not. The wisest thing to do would be to table the "another child" conversation and work diligently to pay off our student loans, start college funds, save for retirement, etc. But fear and doubt always wiggle back in from the depths of my mind when I think about postponing a second child. The doctor so kindly pointed out that "his recommendations would be different if we were having this conversation and I was still young." Gee, thanks. It's interesting that at 28 I was "so young and healthy" but at 29 I'm "no longer young." The clock is admittedly ticking (probably far faster for me as my egg quality already sucks) if we want to try IVF with my own eggs again. But even outside of IVF, I feel the clock ticking. Family building outside of the sheets takes time...lots and lots and lots of time. So do we table it, relishing in our current joy, and continuing to pay to have low quality embryos frozen? Or do we recognize (and maybe even embrace) our circumstances and the ways our family is likely to be built and begin the journey anew with the start of the new year by jumping with both feet back into the TTC game?
I have no answers. Time will tell.
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Guys, can you go over to my sweet, sweet friend's blog and give her some love? She just miscarried again and is having a really rough time. My heart is absolutely broken for her. I know she'd appreciate some love and support during these hard days. She was ready (like really ready) to start her long-awaited cycle at CCRM only to discover she was pregnant...surprise. But now it's over and it's so hard to answer the big questions when what appears to be the greatest blessing ends in more despair.
Ugh. Suuuuuuuch a tough decision. One that I can't even imagine having to make. Having frozen embryos is tough (wonderful but tough!)! I look forward to hearing about what you ultimately decide to do. Love you, friend!!
ReplyDeleteMan this a really tough decision. It's like either just go for it or completely wait..aaggh would drive me crazy. Prayers that a clear answer comes for you :)
ReplyDeleteAmanda, I 100% hear you. I feel like for 4 years we were in such FIGHT mode that it feels unnatural almost to not plan the next steps. I am so ready to close the door on treatments and family building that we were actually thinking of doing one of our embryos this summer and having an insane life with 3 under 2 years old. I agree with you that I know "luck" isn't on our side and that although I have 3 normal embryos to transfer (one at a time) the DR only gave them a 40% since they were frozen, tested, refrozen. All this too say we are in a similar boat. If we did it now it would be insane but I recognize it could take a good year to give each embryo a shot if each one fails. And all 3 could fail which I guess would be our answer too. We do know that we won't do iVF again (fresh). My body has been through the ringer. I truly understand the questions and wondering when it's right. I feel like people have kids on accident all the time and they survive-meaning if you get pregnant in January things will work themselves out day care wise. Sigh!! We are not doing IVF this year after some medical issues came up with Darren, but I' eager to get the ball rolling. Love to you!!
ReplyDeleteThinking about you as you make next decisions for expanding your family!! Also, going to check on your friend!
ReplyDeleteGood hearing from you, btw!
I hear you about always feeling like you have to think 10 steps ahead when everything is so expensive and time consuming. I've been thinking about very similar things. Good luck to you in your decisions.
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry you're having to weigh so many different things. One thing I'll say, with a hint of personal experience thrown in there, is that even though you want to start soon because you have to be steeled against the possibility that it will take a very long time for a second child, do not start trying with any method before you're ready for it to happen right away. It's a truly galling thing about infertility that really made me grit my teeth when we decided to try for a second kid. It could literally happen the first time or years from now, and it's just insult to add to injury.
ReplyDeleteI feel like 5 months is the prime time to be thinking the way you are. You're just getting into the really rewarding smiles and cuddles stage, so you're both excited for the future possibility of doing this again and wondering if you could ever do anything to disrupt this status quo. You're also in the absolute thick of how difficult can be, and you can't imagine how you'll do it with more, but you remember all the reasons why you wanted more. I often say there should almost be some kind of law against being allowed to consider the question of more kids before the previous one is a year old. I know there's nothing magical about that threshold, but there's so much to be preoccupied by before then and it seems like an awfully big burden to add. I guess my point is, try not to let yourself feel rushed into a "yes" decision because, even with infertility, you get to take the time you need, and if you are leaning towards "no", just accept it for now and try not to worry about the future or start making yourself come to terms with changing your plans. I think we didn't come out of the overwhelmed haze until at least 9 months, and that was just being able to agree that we wanted another kid at some point. My husband admitted that he didn't think he was ready yet to support me through everything we'd gone through before and that he was a little shell-shocked.
Ugh, SUCH a tough decision. I can't imagine having frozen embryos around to make it feel even tougher. I'm praying that yall are able to make a decision that is right for your whole family!!
ReplyDeleteSo hard... if it were me and I could come up with the $4,000 to do it by January I would say go for it! I wouldn't spend $500 to continue to store the embryos due to it being difficult to come up with childcare funds. Maybe that's just me, but that's what I would do. If you DO get pregnant, you will have 9 months to figure out childcare and such. And get lots of promotions at work. Or whatever.
ReplyDeleteBUT, that's easy to say when I'm just spending your $4,000 and $1,000/mo. :) And seriously... daycare should NOT be so expensive! Aargh! (Or decisions this unfair and complicated).
It makes me both mad and sad that money has to weigh so heavily when it comes to infertility. Anyone planning a family should consider the cost, but when it costs thousands and thousands more than the typical fertile couple, well, it's just not fair. I'm with you on giving those embryos you already have a chance. I would do the same thing I also want to add that poor embryo quality doesn't necessarily mean they won't turn into a forever baby. One of my twins was from an embryo that didn't even meet the criteria to freeze, but because we had another one, they kept it anyway because they like to freeze them in pairs. Thank God they did!!! Wishing you the best of luck, however you choose to move forward.
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